Comments on: Smoking Bans and the Economy http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/ Cigar Reviews, Cigar Industry News, Smoking Ban Watch and a little about Libations and Food. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:57:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Travis Lindsay http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-8454 Travis Lindsay Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:30:45 +0000 http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/#comment-8454 Some cities are taking a step back on the total smoking bans. Boston and Dallas have opted to exempt some cigar bars and, at least in the case of Boston, their reasoning for giving an exemption (for ten years) is the state of the economy. Unfortunately, history shows that these exemptions are short lived. Eventually the economy is going to turn around and those crusading politicians will come after smokers once again. Some cities are taking a step back on the total smoking bans. Boston and Dallas have opted to exempt some cigar bars and, at least in the case of Boston, their reasoning for giving an exemption (for ten years) is the state of the economy.

Unfortunately, history shows that these exemptions are short lived. Eventually the economy is going to turn around and those crusading politicians will come after smokers once again.

]]> By: Bob http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-8446 Bob Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:51:58 +0000 http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/#comment-8446 We are now calling the "Blagoban" We are now calling the “Blagoban”

]]> By: TommyBB http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-8445 TommyBB Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:29:37 +0000 http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/#comment-8445 Excellent post, CJ. It's sad that few in "mainstream" media will ever draw attention to the issue in this manner. Excellent post, CJ. It’s sad that few in “mainstream” media will ever draw attention to the issue in this manner.

]]> By: dmjones http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-8444 dmjones Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:34:56 +0000 http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/#comment-8444 Every scheme to raise taxes, at practically any level and for any purpose, falls short of the expected revenues that the backers predict when they are pushing through these taxes. The politicians then spend the money based on the predictions and when the revenues are short they have two choices: cut spending or raise taxes elsewhere. Any sensible people would cut spending, but these are politicians we're talking about here. Witness my home state of California where the people keep voting themselves for big-spending projects, the politicians keep raising taxes and fees, and no one ever expects to get spending cut--and when cuts are threatened the unions come unglued and air all kinds of propaganda campaigns about how the kids won't get educated and police and fire won't be there to help. Just one small reason that I am out of this state in 5 weeks! The truth is that smokers deserve a parade for all the tax revenue that we generate and all the "children's health" programs we prop up. Non-smokers should be aware: if you back higher taxes on tobacco products, do not expect us smokers to feel sorry for you when they come to slay your sacred cow. Last year the city of Chicago had a shortfall of revenue in the public utilities so they tried to impose a stiff tax on bottled water. Every scheme to raise taxes, at practically any level and for any purpose, falls short of the expected revenues that the backers predict when they are pushing through these taxes. The politicians then spend the money based on the predictions and when the revenues are short they have two choices: cut spending or raise taxes elsewhere. Any sensible people would cut spending, but these are politicians we’re talking about here. Witness my home state of California where the people keep voting themselves for big-spending projects, the politicians keep raising taxes and fees, and no one ever expects to get spending cut–and when cuts are threatened the unions come unglued and air all kinds of propaganda campaigns about how the kids won’t get educated and police and fire won’t be there to help. Just one small reason that I am out of this state in 5 weeks!

The truth is that smokers deserve a parade for all the tax revenue that we generate and all the “children’s health” programs we prop up. Non-smokers should be aware: if you back higher taxes on tobacco products, do not expect us smokers to feel sorry for you when they come to slay your sacred cow. Last year the city of Chicago had a shortfall of revenue in the public utilities so they tried to impose a stiff tax on bottled water.

]]> By: Bob http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-8443 Bob Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:13:14 +0000 http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/#comment-8443 The Illinois ban is very profitable for the Governor. Hopefully we'll find out how profitable in the upcoming investigations. The Illinois ban is very profitable for the Governor. Hopefully we’ll find out how profitable in the upcoming investigations.

]]> By: Carol Wingert http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-8442 Carol Wingert Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:49:47 +0000 http://www.cigarjack.net/2008/12/11/smoking-bans-and-the-economy/#comment-8442 did you notice how we smokers are being discriminated against? Before I started smoking, if I didn't like the cigarrette smoke, I didnt't go in, or I sat in the non smoking section. I felt they had the right to smoke, just like I have the right not to. Now I smoke, and I still respect (to a point) the non-smoker. When we go to our local social club, we sit back in the corner, because sometimes there are people eating and I know some folk don't like to smell smoke when they are eating. If we are there first, then it's up to them to decide where they sit. AND contrary to what the "health" official say, SMOKING DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER, YOUR OWN MIND AND THE WAY YOU THINK DOES. http://www.carolwingert.com did you notice how we smokers are being discriminated against? Before I started smoking, if I didn’t like the cigarrette smoke, I didnt’t go in, or I sat in the non smoking section. I felt they had the right to smoke, just like I have the right not to.

Now I smoke, and I still respect (to a point) the non-smoker. When we go to our local social club, we sit back in the corner, because sometimes there are people eating and I know some folk don’t like to smell smoke when they are eating.

If we are there first, then it’s up to them to decide where they sit.

AND contrary to what the “health” official say, SMOKING DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER, YOUR OWN MIND AND THE WAY YOU THINK DOES.

http://www.carolwingert.com

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